i can win this election for you in a tough environment. hold your noses, vote for me even if you're not 100%, and i can win the white house. that's how bill clinton won in 1992. because the democratic brand was damaged in '92, he was able to distance himself from it to help democrats. >> much like the republican brand now. >> exactly. >> look, let me -- erin? >> yes, roland. >> last i checked, criticizing congress is not going to somehow hurt you with the american people. so governor christie is frankly walking on -- like jesus walking on water criticizing republicans and democrats in congress. but here's the other piece you have to keep in mind. we're four years away. this whole notion of what's going to happen, so many things could very well happen. but if chris christie is able to reach out to grassroots folks, he's all about trying to appeal to republicans in congress, republican governors. it's about appealing to grassroots people. if he's able to show that kind of enthusiasm, that kind of energy, that's actually going to drag other p